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WTF is Secondary Post-Traumatic Stress?

By John

Time --

As an army psychiatrist treating soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, Major Nidal Malik Hasan had a front row seat on the brutal toll of war. It is too early to know exactly what may have triggered his murderous shooting rampage Thursday at Fort Hood — Hasan is accused of killing 12 people and wounding 32 others before he was wounded by a police officer — but it is not uncommon for therapists treating soldiers with Post Trumatic Stress Disorder (P.T.S.D.) to be swept up in a patient's displays of war-related paranoia, helplessness and fury.

vs. veteran JR Salzman, who lost a limb in combat --

[You] don’t get PTSD from sitting on your ass around Walter Reed. Not only is it not possible to “catch” secondhand PTSD, but it is not that kind of a place. I would know, I was a patient there for nine months. The place is simply not that stressful or chaotic. When I was there my PTSD got better, not worse. And I would be willing to bet my dog tags that I saw far more wounded Soldiers than shit bag major did during our overlapping time there in 2007. I regularly visited Ward 57 to give advice to the new wounded. Other Soldiers and amputees did it for me when I was there so I considered my visits “paying it forward”. I had daily physical and occupational therapy. I regularly partook in activities in and out of Walter Reed with present and past wounded Soldiers. To say that this guy got PTSD from being stationed at Walter Reed is an absolute fucking farce. The people who are making this shit up have never set foot on Walter Reed, let alone met a soldier with PTSD.

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Oh Muslims are just so fragging violet. It is in their religion. Ja, Right.
Look thousands of Muslims have served in the US military over the last 6 years while the US has waged a war of aggression and an occupation of a major Muslim country. Yet during this period only TWO Muslim members of the US military have carried out attacks against US forces. Shit that is pathetic.
That makes Muslims as a group even more peaceful than than Zen Buddhists. No wonder the Muslims have not been able to win a war against non Muslims. They can not even beat the Hindus who are more famous for their literature about love and sex than war.
Oh well the psychology of group behavior is no secret. To question or not to question that is the question.

Curt Kastens   ·  November 9, 2009 04:57 AM

Oh Muslims are just so fragging violet. It is in their religion. Ja, Right.
Look thousands of Muslims have served in the US military over the last 6 years while the US has waged a war of aggression and an occupation of a major Muslim country. Yet during this period only TWO Muslim members of the US military have carried out attacks against US forces. Shit that is pathetic.
That makes Muslims as a group even more peaceful than than Zen Buddhists. No wonder the Muslims have not been able to win a war against non Muslims. They can not even beat the Hindus who are more famous for their literature about love and sex than war.
Oh well the psychology of group behavior is no secret. To question or not to question that is the question.

Curt Kastens   ·  November 9, 2009 04:58 AM

PTSD is just one of the serious issues some of our most severely wounded warriors face. The Wounded Warrior Project is a non-profit organization designed to help our soldiers more easily transition back home.

Our most catastrophically injured soldiers, those who cannot function on their own, need significant help. They and their families are struggling. Senate Bill 1963 is legislation that provides counseling, respite care and a small stipend to help soldiers receive the care they need from people they know and trust. Please call your senators today and urge them to move SB 1963 to a floor vote by Veterans Day. Please tell them to vote yes by clicking: http://bit.ly/1Up0q2.

Lisa Daniel   ·  November 9, 2009 06:51 AM

Curt, who said anything about Islam?

John   ·  November 9, 2009 09:01 AM

Posting on this thread?

John   ·  November 9, 2009 09:54 AM

i would not dismiss it outright, but I would not say that that is the cause either

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