Still too early to get spun up, but....

Given the misgivings many of us have toward the Obama administration, it's easy to jump on stuff like this and the DOD Surplus brass snafu as evidence of malignant intent. However, a good friend's admonition to me several years back comes to mind, "Don't be too quick to ascribe to malice that which can easily be explained by incompetence".

I'm not saying that we remain vigilant, but I think we can currently afford a moment to relax and enjoy the spectacle of this incompetent admininstration digging themselves into a honkin' deep hole.

Drat! That should read, "I'm not saying that we shouldn't remain vigiliant..."

But there's been so much incompetence that I can't help but think there's some malevolence behind it.

A 25 DVD collection to your closest ally, to a friend who's going blind? Aren't there State Dept. protocol people who normally select gifts?

Vets are the one group who's health care I don't mind paying. Though as Democrats want to get reelected, I can't see this policy lasting long.

Aren't there State Dept. protocol people who normally select gifts?

What, do you think Hilary wants Obie to look good?

Even with insurance, you pay in the end. Maybe they only cover part of it, and you're out the rest. Maybe there's a deductible. Maybe they jack up your premiums. Charging someone's insurance is the same as charging them and letting their intermediary handle it.

Whether by malice or incompetence, to even be capable of suggesting this is to be completely without honor. Hell, if it were up to me, the moment a person pledged their lives to keep my civilian keester safe they'd have medical care taken care of for life.

You think this is far fetched and not even remotely going to happen?

Believe ol' Rahm. "It's going to happen".

Shifting INS coverage is merely the start. Oh and then when your "pre-existing condition" flares up...tough pay your own way.

And all of that "perceived PTSD liability" that you can be saddled with?
there goes:
Right to bear arms - (murder, suicide, etc..)
Driving privilege - (road rage)
Home ins - (domestic violence)

Everyone of these non-serving, mil haters will bend over backwards to re-distribute every one of our "rights".

Hope for change in '10 & '12.

It appears that he might be reconsidering this. Of course I'm just repeating of Pelosis said last night. Just a rumor but Barry could be repeating.

Some things to consider:

1. Semantics. At first the suggestion was to means test all vets, then make those that had the money (level to be determined), or private insurance reimburse the VA through normal insurance methods. That has now turned into "war-wounded." Perhaps I've been overlawyered for too long, but:

a. Is GWOT a war declared by Congress? No, it is not. The only vets who fall under the group "war-wounded" are the two or three WWI vets, and the remainder of the WWII vets.

b. What about those that have "service-connected" disabilities/issues? They aren't war-wounded and therefore not eligible. What about a warrior injured in an accident, not under fire?

Rahm Emanual is, to put it politely, about as evil (yes, I applied a moral term of judgement) as one gets. Unless our veterans groups are busy pouring millions of dollars into the Democratic Party, we are non-entities to him. Now, to entice us to pay for Democrats, the stick is us paying for care - the carrot is Emanual convinces his buddies to erase, or not even follow, the law (as was done in the last bit of legislation).

So was this a case of plain old stupidity? Or a testing of the waters to see if anyone outside veterans groups was paying attention?

Soooo, Shinseki the X-4 star who surfaced this is either a complete and total bum/hack/dumb donkey word etc.. or he privately disagreed with Obama and pulled a rope a dope on his boss, floating the trial balloon taking a portion of the heat all the while knowing full well it would pop and hit Obama on the back burst closing the issue. If he is that smart he gets kudos, if not fire the bum.

in case you did not hear, the idea did not fly, so it wll not happen

Mindy1, off the table for now. Gone but not forgotten. President Erkle will be back with something similar if we let him.

Where do you guys think this idea originated?

I'll bet you a pint of your favorite beverage that it was in the Pentagon. Dr. David S.C. Chu-the man who hates Serving soldiers, Sailors , Airman and Marines has proposed things like this before.

Go back to 2005, and 2006 and you will see the same things were proposed and defeated in Congress.