Hartford: 85-degree roll?

By Bull Nav

That's what Navy Times is reporting.

Investigators think the attack submarine Hartford rolled 85 degrees after it collided with the amphibious transport dock New Orleans in the Strait of Hormuz on March 20, according to a Navy statement.

Not to mention, there was some more damage.

“Despite the roll, engineering investigations have confirmed the propulsion plant of the submarine was unaffected by this collision,” the statement said. “However, Hartford sustained damage to its sail and periscope, as well as the port bow plane.”
The collision punched a 16-by-18 foot hole in New Orleans’ fuel tank, and two interior ballast tanks were damaged, the statement said.

I had heard that the bow plane was damaged, and after examining my model of SCRANTON, it appeared to me that the ship would have to roll at least 75 degrees in order for the bottom of NEW ORLEANS to come in contact with the port bow plane (assuming that the bow of NEW ORLEANS struck the sail of HARTFORD). Also, I noticed that in no picture of HARTFORD was either periscope raised, leading me to conclude that something could have happened to them, too.

They will be spending a long time there getting fixed. Keep the crew in your thoughts and prayers as they have a lot of work to do.

March 27, 2009 09:40 AM Leadership ~ Navy ~ Submarine Warfare

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As an Army type and NOT Navy, is it okay for me to assume some people are losing command and or careers over this one?? (believe me, I'm not wishing it on them. I would HATE to be wearing their shoes right now)

Old Tanker · March 27, 2009 05:38 PM

There are a number of others here who are a lot more knowledgeable on this topic than an old grunt, but a short answer to your question is Yes. You can bet that careers will be ended over this.

Marine6 · March 29, 2009 06:35 AM

I would like to see a picture of New Orleans. A 16X18 foot hole is gigantic, as big as the damage to USS Cole. Everyone is lucky there was no loss of life.

There will soon be two FORMER ship captains.

Richard S. Lowry · April 1, 2009 08:52 AM

My brother is a crew member on the Hartford, and he said guys were on the walls when it rolled which makes sense when it rolls 85 degrees. When the New Orleans broadsided them at 20 knots it bent the sail like a tin can. So you can see the outside from inside the sail, as I'm sure you can tell from the pictures. There's structural damage to the upper and mid-level decks. I'm just happy that no one was seriously injured.

Amy Leigh · April 3, 2009 12:43 PM