A Brief Word on Gas

1970's power and refining infrastructure that are regulated to death, radical left wing green policies for the last 30 years, and a media not objectively reporting the real problems. Good luck America! It must be those evil oil companies! We are FOOLING ourselves to think there is a short term solution to this problem.
I can't wait to get my carbon credit card! I guess we haven't learned from the Carter years.

Just signed it. All real Americans should sign it.

I had already signed the petition. Not only in ANWR, but it is illegal to drill in the Atlantic. China is here drilling, but because of the enviro-idiots, we can't do it.

Signed. Excellent comments.

You should also note that the federal government's cut is higher than the oil companies. Take a look at the API's Putting Earnings in Perspective.

Lots of bad info out there that has a lot bigger implications than just what we pay at the pump.

I like our ozone. I want it to stay there. But we need energy. We have so, oh so many resource and technologies to develop more sources of energy. Like more nuclear reactors, solar panels, and so on.

Yeah, they make record-profits, but they also pay record-taxes.

The oil-industry's profit-margin, as a whole, is only about 9%, which is lower than many other industries.

More Americans need to get pissed off like we are and do something about it.

Get a vehicle with better gas mileage.

No, I do a lot of outdoor stuff. The expedition is a good fit.

Actually the situation is very military related. Couldn't be more related in fact. The US DoD is the world's largest consumer of fuel. All that JP-8, diesel, fuel oil, lubricants, regular gas...
I was watching that PBS thing Carrier, there was one part of an F-18 pilot describing how many times he had to tank just to get overhead central Iraq. (as an aside, it was interesting that during the deployment none of the pilots recorded on camera that they had actually dropped on anything. How does the skill required for in-flight refuel compare to releasing a JDAM? Are we training fighters or are we training people to maximize fuel consumption?) Another part was about night landings with pitching deck, and how many times they had to bolter and then send up even more aircraft with buddy stores just so they could keep trying to hook. The point is, the current US military operations are consuming fuel products at a tremendous rate. Its huge, HUGE!
Nuc plants are being decomissioned in this country while there is no plan to build even one new one. Even if we decided today to build one, that is years away from becoming online. Further, unless your car runs on batteries, that ain't gonna help your gas bill. Same story with refineries, years away from serious increased capacity. It is even worse with any 'alternative' energy sources. Pontificators without any science ability are promising scientific miracle breakthoughts that, if that had any scientific knowledge, are folly. If you want to talk about 2050, maybe we can plan for future developments. And you know, your hated Enviromentals, have been warning about this for decades. Decades.
You wanna do something right now?
Ditch the SUV. End the war.
I personally have a single car in my household and I bike 12 miles a day to my place of work where they actually pay me- pay me- to bike instead of car or public trans.

You are way, way, way behind.

dude, obsydean, I bet your shit smells like a bouquet of chrysanthemums.

Ah yes, another thing. Unless I am mistaken, China and Cuba are drilling for oil 60 miles off our coast line! And our green whack jobs have made it so we can't! Please feel free to correct me if I wrong, but if I'm not then please explain to me what is wrong with this picture....I guess it is really hard for Americans to understand common sense in this day and age.

Uh yeah @ John and Seg.

What a smug f*ck that obsydean guy is.

obsydean, please take a look here for facts on US Military fuel consumption in Iraq.

Here is the summary line of the artice:

— The U.S. consumes about 21 million of the 86 million barrels of oil per day demanded on the global market. While the Defense Department is as the nation's single largest user of energy, its 1.6 million gallons a day in Iraq is small relative to the total market.

"Ending the war" will not have an effect on worldwide fuel consumption, I would submit. In fact, someone else would buy up that fuel.

I agree that there are alternatives, but a useful alternative to the smallest, most dense power generation unit, i.e., the internal combustion gasoline engine, is not out there yet. Military operations need gas. Period. Even in peacetime.

That is one of the many costs of freedom.

OK, something got gooned up--the last comment at 0426 was mine...

Wake Up!
The end of the lifestyle we have known based on cheap oil and all petroleum products is nearing the end. We either need to adapt and move to a more self sufficient energy lifestyle or prepare to accept a smack (like a 2x4 in the face) when the economy tanks and most Americians will not even be able to afford to drive to work and live in the suburbs.
Obysdean rides a bike, great. Thats one guy, but neither his individual effort, nor exploiting all the petrowealth of our great nation will sustain us indefinitely. Expect to "Stand to" as the fuel hits the fan. Everything will get more expensive, not just gas.

John, you're the one that started the rant about wanting something done. There are things every individual can do in the short term to ease the strain and if we all did that it would have a significant impact. Arguing with you dudes obviously has little impact so we'll just leave to pricing and economics instead.

A person like Obsydean does not need to be debated with, but defeated..